How to extract cloud points perimeter?

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WargodHernandez
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Re: How to extract cloud points perimeter?

Post by WargodHernandez »

This may be worth adding as a standard option to contour extraction maybe "3d contour" or "in place envelope"... not sure on the name, but I can see the use of this.
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Re: How to extract cloud points perimeter?

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Dear WargodHernandez, thank you for your help

I did these steps :
1- Select points clouds you want to extract its perimeter
2- Edit > Scalar filed > Export coordinates to SF (choose z)
3- Select points clouds Edit > Multiyply/Scale > z=0 (to flatten points clouds in xy plane )
4- Click Cross section tools
5- Click Contour
with parameters (check extract envelope > full) (check extract contours --play with 2 numerical parameters for better matching in xy view))
6- You will get new polyline (whithc it is perimeter line but only in xy plane z=0)
7= Select flattened points clouds and new polyline together > Tools > Distances > Cloud/primitive Dist
8- Now flattened points clouds SF is distance from polyline
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12- Edit > Scalar filed > filer by value ( 0 to 2)

What are missing steps?
I did not understand SF interpolation?

However I simply use librieCalc to finish the job successfully by pasting original z value instead of zeros in column no3 while I keep column no4 as it is (distance)
then I use SF filer by value in CC
and I am satisfied with result
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Re: How to extract cloud points perimeter?

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DA523
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Re: How to extract cloud points perimeter?

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error msg
[02:13:38] [InterpolateScalarFieldsFrom] Clouds are too far from each other! Can't proceed.

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WargodHernandez
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Re: How to extract cloud points perimeter?

Post by WargodHernandez »

You would want to do it when both the cloud and the polyline vertices are flat with z=0.
So immediately after creating the contour polylines that's when you should copy the z coordinate SF from the original cloud
DA523
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Re: How to extract cloud points perimeter?

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Thank you
I did it successfully

Required steps as per WargodHernandez great help:
1- Select cloud you want to extract its perimeter
2- Clone it into new cloud then select new cloud
3- Edit > Scalar filed > Export coordinates to SF (choose z)
4- Select cloud > Edit > Multiyply/Scale > z=0 (to flatten cloud in xy plane )
5- Click Cross section tools
6- Click Contour
parameters (check extract envelope > full) (check extract contours --play with 2 numerical parameters for better matching in xy view))
7- You will get new polyline (perimeter line but only in xy plane z=0)
8= Select flattened cloud + (polyline cloud vertices) > Edit > Scalar filed > Interpolate from another entity
9- When child window appears, click coord. Z
10- (polyline cloud vertices) r > Edit > Scalar filed > Set SF as coordinates
11- when child window appears choose Z
12- Select (polyline cloud vertices) > Edit > Scalar filed > Set SF as coordinate(s)
13- Now you have new perimeter cloud matching original cloud perimeter in xyz

Extra Remarks:
a- Interpolate from another entity copies SF from cloud which has SF to non-SF cloud using nearest vertex SF value etc ..
b- Always you can generate SF fro z values of non-SF cloud so you turn it to SF cloud
c- Always you can copy SF to z values so you have new elevation

d- There is another approach which has ability to choose some original cloud vertices as perimeter and can choose thick perimeter depending on your SF filtering
Steps of this approach include
(Cross section tools > Contour)
(z scaling)
(Tools > Distances > Cloud/primitive Dist)
(Edit > Scalar filed > filer by value )
(pasting z value in librieCalc or Excel )
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Re: How to extract cloud points perimeter?

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And normally, the 'Tools > Fit > Facet' function does exactly the same thing... (for the 'contour' extraction part)
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Re: How to extract cloud points perimeter?

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daniel wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:25 am And normally, the 'Tools > Fit > Facet' function does exactly the same thing
You wright, it is easier to use.
just have to scale cloud to z=0 and and recover again from SF
Also change Max Edge lengh between ( 0.1 to 20) depending on your cloud shape
Really this feature is very useful to build an irregular roof (cover) of any shape prior to volume tools

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